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Living Off The Grid Sounds Smarter Every Day

Solar PanelsThose of you that read my posts often know that my mind is constantly turning.  Mostly about business but also about other things, everything..you just never know where my mind will go next.  This is one of my stories and I am going to end this post with an Off The Wall Proposition to the Health Care Industry.

Well, the other day I was heating something up in the Microwave.  As it was heating I looked at it and thought "You know, I am heating this up in less than a minute. I'm sure they call it nuking food for a reason."  As my mind thought about that I began to wonder, "why do I even use this thing?  The food tastes different, and most often not for the better.  If it is nuking food, what is it doing to us as people?  Why don't I just get rid of my Microwave, get a better Stove/Oven and use it more."  Yes, my thoughts flip that fast.  I thought about it for a couple of minutes and then off to something else.  I thought no more about it.

Until of course the other day when I was reading a post by Barbara Jo Roberts talking about White Noise and How It Affects Our Environment.  The post talked about how "noisy" electricity is and we do not often realize it.  It was a speculative, very deep thinking and great post which reminded me of my Microwave story.  Then, back to business, I thought no more of it.  Well, today I read the most outrageous story in the newspaper that got me on the subject again.  It was about a man that had eaten Microwave Popcorn twice a day for 10 years.  He ended up with Health Problems, mainly with his lungs.  For the sake of this post I will keep going and you can read The Article Here.  I decided to do some research on the topic.

I Googled 'Microwave Illness' and found 1,390,000 links.  Wow.  Obviously this subject is not new.  It spoke of Foodborne Illnesses being more prominent in Microwave food, The Popcorn Guy, the people at the plants that manufacture the popcorn, and other Miscellaneous Electricity/MicroWave Topics.  Is it really a coincidence that as Technology gets better, there are more illnesses that were previously unheard of

The first link was about a Doctor/Researcher who has recently written a book on Radiation and Health.  He talks about a variety of Radiation Issues and how there are seemingly unrelated illnesses increasing across the globe due to us creating one big Earth Microwave by using Technology.

Another one was a study by the San Francisco Medical Society regarding Waves-ElectoMagnetic Waves and Cell Phones in particular.  Quite Interesting.  Seemingly Unrelated Illnesses and Cancer were found.

I read so many articles but the last one Really caught my eye.  Electrical Sensitivity as an Emerging IllnessWho would not have to read this.  We have all heard the Controversy with Power Lines, but this takes it further.  Computers, Televisions, Wireless Internet, Cordless Phones, you name it.  Basically, if it has Electricity.  They have found that there are people that are getting sick around Large Quantities of Electricity.  Have you hear the term "I think I'm allergic to work"?  They found truth in that statement.

Electric PlugNow I'm stuck here thinking, so what do we do about this.  These are REAL studies by REAL Medical Professionals and coming to REAL conclusions.  I personally think that I am going to get rid of my microwave as a start.  I do not want my children eating stuff that is nuked if we are already learning the Health Consequences of using Microwaves.  It will be out by the end of the week.

Now, I said that I had a Proposition for the Medical Industry.  I read through links and links of studies today.  We spend Billions of Dollars a year on Research.  Instead of testing how Negative something like this can be, why don't we test how Positive it would be without it

I have not thought this completely through yet, but why doesn't a Medical Research Company help sponsor an Off The Grid Sustainable Community and track the Positive Results?  Let's go Off The Grid somewhere and find out how our health changes by not being Exposed to Electromagnetic Fields, Microwaves, and other Technology that sucks Electricity like Plasma Televisions.  I think it sounds like one heck of an idea.  As a matter of fact, if you chose to do one anywhere near Houston,  I would move in a heartbeat.  Living Off The Grid is sounding Smarter Every Day and like I said, I'm starting with my Microwave.

 

Comments

Steph - I have an ancient microwave, and when I use it, Nick always tells me to not stand near it.

I did stop microwaving popcorn, though, and got a stove popper.  I agree - things always taste better on the stove or in the oven than they do in the microwave.

Maybe I should get rid of mine, too.  Great blog!

Posted by Joslyn Panka Solomon - Mora Minnesota - Minnesota's One Way Ticket to SOLD! (Century 21 Moline Realty) over 4 years ago
Thanks Joslyn!  Where have you been?  I am going to upgrade my range this month I think.  Mine is ancient.  :)  I think all of the insulation in it is shot...when I use the stovetop the whole area heats up like you wouldn't believe...enough to melt a plastic spoon sometimes.  So, I'll dump my microwave and get a new range.  These were some crazy reports..you should read them.
Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
Hi Stephanie! Yes, I've heard of how detrimental microwaves, bluetooth, cell phones, and a lot of other things are for our health. This is why my kids don't use their microwaves and won't let me use mine. They also insist I not use a bluetooth. There are facts to back up the research that says its affecting people in a bad way and making people sick. Great post! :)
Posted by Pamela Williamson Team Clayton, Missouri Real Estate (Dielmann Sotheby's International Realty) over 4 years ago
Hi Pamela,  Wouldn't it be nice to be completely off grid and not have to worry about all of the Electrical lines, so forth.   I would love to see the health statistics for people living in an off grid community/house.  That would really be something!
Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago

One of my sisters (ok, she's a little wacky) refuses to eat anything cooked in a microwave, claiming it messes with the food's molecules.  But any kind of cooking does that.  I wouldn't live near one of those huge power line "parks" and have trouble selling homes near them.  Who knows?

Back when I worked for Ralph Nader (early 70's) he put out a report saying that mint tea causes cancer.  With that, I decided not to worry about it any more.

Posted by Patricia Kennedy (Evers & Company Realtors) over 4 years ago
Hi Patricia-  I have always believed that power lines affect people. Actually, I did a report on it for a Science Fair in 7th or 8th grade....Now I think why would microwaves be any different.  I still think there is a lot to say for off the grid living.  The mint tea thing???  I don't know about that.  :)
Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
So now I have to cook? I love microwave popcorn (we get the bucket thingy from Blockbuster) We have a flat top stove so it heats up quick and stuff. Now..what shall I make for dinner.
Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) over 4 years ago

Sally,  LOL.  :)  Boil and egg and fix Chicken Salad on Croissants.  Put 1/3 Honey Mustard and 2/3 Mayonnaise and a dash of hot sauce.  YUM!  No cooking at all except the egg.  It's one of my favorites.

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago

Wow Stephanie! You have outdone yourself on this one! I love your proposal to the scientific community!

As for microwaves....I have read many studies negative studies about microwaving in plastic. Not good for one. I personally shy away from the microwave as much as I can. My other question would be about prepared foods, frozen or otherwise, that we purchase to microwave. Looking at the soups that come in styrofoam containers and cardboard frozen dinners I just cringe.

It really hit me around 18 years ago when I was microwaving some canned carrots for my baby son and they were sparking in the microwave. I called the manufacturer and they requested I get a sample to them. Too late, it was already thrown out. At that time I was working in food manufacturing in the testing labs and I had a pretty good incling that something passed through their testing process that shouldn't have. Quite possibly it also could have been metal shavings from opening the can that fell into the carrots. Either way -- I was pretty turned off by the microwave and have been ever since.

Great Blog! Deserving of a Gold Star to raise some awareness out there ! (oh! I can do that today, can't I?)

Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago
Stephanie - Really a great post. I have sent this on to my friends and colleagues! Your links are great!!! Thanks for taking this a step further!!!
Posted by Bill's Blog - Florida Realty Professional - AHWD (Charles Rutenberg Realty) over 4 years ago
Stephanie, We love microwave popcorn. I don't cook in the microwave, but I do use it for re-heating and I think that is even too much.
Posted by Camarillo CA Real Estate Agent/ Mana Tulberg (805 County Real Estate) over 4 years ago
Stephanie,  Interesting information. Having spent more than 10 years sitting next to huge transformers, I wonder how I was affected by the electric fields.
Posted by Gary Smith (Agent Marketing Today) over 4 years ago
It sure seems like we are all in a big experiment doesn't it???
Posted by Chris Tesch College Station, Texas Real Estate (RE/MAX Bryan College Station) over 4 years ago
Great information Stephanie!  I have wondered about the "noise"..good to know more for a local expert!
Posted by Your Tampa Bay Mortgage Source over 4 years ago
Geez Stephanie. Now you've got my head spinning too. This is NOT what I want to hear. I HATE cooking! Without a microwave I'm toast. Or maybe I'll just be living on toast...
Posted by Lisa Hill (Daytona Beach Real Estate) (Florida Property Experts) over 4 years ago
By living off the grid do you mean no electricity or just disconnected from the power lines?  I don't think I could live without electricity but using solar energy, geothermal heat, wind energy, tidal energy, and micro-hydroelectric power are all good ideas.  If we develop these we can stop burning coal that wrecks the environment and gain independence from foreign oil.
Posted by Rita Taylor | Sanford NC Real Estate & Homes for Sale in Sanford North Carolina (None) over 4 years ago

Stephanie, have you ever looked into the "slow food movement"?  I think you will be intrigued if you haven't looked into it yet.

Posted by Dena Stevens ~ Putting the 'real' into REALTOR (Century 21 Canon Land & Investment) over 4 years ago
Stephanie - You do think quickly - my mind was racing in your first few paragraphs. i have heard much of this and find it amazing how much more we are subjected to in the last ten years, Worse, we take it for granted and have no idea how to live without some of these conveniences. Time for some change!
Posted by Paula Henry, Realtor® | Indianapolis Real Estate | 317-605-4174 (Home to Indy Team @ Sycamore Group Associates) over 4 years ago
I would be perfectly happy to live 50 miles from anyone - although I think it might be a little tough to sell Real Estate - but the beauty of none of these issues would be grand
Posted by Thesa Chambers, Principal Broker Licensed in Oregon, with (Prudential NW Properties Sunriver) over 4 years ago

Stephanie,

Great post!  What do we do with this?  And how much does the average consumer want to know.  It is a common place discussion now about how much trouble our reliance on fossil fuels gets us into.  Are we so connected to electricity that knowing it is bad for us would make little to know difference.  Creepy.

Oh, and sign me up for the "off the grid health experiment as well". 

Posted by Gabe Swinney Asheville New Urbanism (Gabe Swinney) over 4 years ago
Stephanie--We had a huge transformer on a power pole in our yard a few dozen feet from our house when we moved in. The top of the tree it was near was dead. We didn't believe there was no risk to our health or the health of our children and paid to have it removed and put in underground. The tree had regrown new branches and is now taller than ever. Best money we ever spent.
Posted by Teri Eckholm, REALTOR® Anoka&Washington Counties Acreage & Lakeshore Homes (REMAX Specialists) over 4 years ago
Steph, I usually love all your post. I think this is a very thought out post but I do have to sound off on this one. You have to be careful about all the so called "illnesses". People today blame alot of there problems on other things rather than their own actions. The power line controversy was actually proved false and the scientist that first claimed that power lines caused illness "I believe was convicted of something to do with that case". Now certainly microwaves are something that could cause some problems but I really doubt it does. You make good points that we should all live a little better and more earth friendly. But be careful on what info you take as legitimate.
Posted by T.U.P. Realty over 4 years ago

Hi Mary,  Thanks.  It's an interetsing topic.  I think I found some great resources since it is controversial..know what I mean?  :)

Hi Barbara Jo,  You're Welcome. Thanks for sparking the thought!

Hi Mana,  I use mine for the same thing.  Baked Potatos, Can Veggies, Etc.  It will be in my garage this week though.  :) 

Hi Gary,  I have followed the Electro Magnetic Field Studies for many years.  It is very controversial and the studies that I point out in the post basically say that 1) they affect everyone different or 2)  Yes it impacts us but we do not know to what level because it is instances of illness such as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. It's very intresting.  If you have time, check out the links.

Hi Chris,  It does sounds like that sometimes.  :)

Thanks Leah!

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago

Hi Lisa,  LOL.  I enjoy cooking, I just don't like cleaning up the kitchen afterwards.  :)  You can do it!!

Hi Rita,  I mean just not relying on power lines.  There are ways to actually produce enough electricity through solar to FEED BACK into the Grid.  Some people produce solar during the day, feed back to the grid, and use the grid at night.  I would like to see something completely disconnected from the grid.  It would be fascinating to see.

Hi Dena,  I'm not familiar with it.  Do you have a link?

Hi Paula,  I'm thinking about changing the second paragraph so it is not so confusing.  You hit the nail on the head. It's about convenience and taking for granted.  There is so much available that we don't use.  Like Mammogram machines with MUCH less radiation than what we use now...makes you think.

Hi Thesa,  I don't think an off grid home would have to be that secluded.  Now you have me doing more research. :)

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
Stephanie, http://www.slowfood.com/   This slow food movement started up in direct opposition to fast food taking over. They emphasis on local foods cooked to be enjoyed and shared.
Posted by Dena Stevens ~ Putting the 'real' into REALTOR (Century 21 Canon Land & Investment) over 4 years ago

Hi Gabe,  You bring up another awesome point.  How much does the average consumer want to know..and how would they handle it?  Wow.  Deep thinking question.  I like it.  :)  I guess we can try to show the advantages and make a good start. 

Hi Teri,  So you believe it has an impact?  Me too.  I'm glad you did that.  Can you note any other changes since you buried the lines?

Hi Jeff F,  Thanks for the comment.  I appreciate it. :)  Actually, the illness part was from the stuff I read, not me.  I have followed the topic of Electro Magnetic Fields since Middle School.  From everything I have read, it is not that they have proven it false, it's that they can not prove EXACTLY what it affects.  These links are basically saying that some people are more sensitive than others.  That goes back to Science.  You can not say something is FACT unless you can reproduce the same outcome.  But if everyone reacts different, then that is next to impossible.  That is why I recommended the off grid community as research.  If those factors are completely taken away, I think we would see more.  They could for instance have someone with asthma, Electrical/Environmental Sensitivity, and so on. 

In Europe they will not allow building anything within so many meters of Overhead lines.  Several meters, not just a few.  The studies done here are so different than other countries, it makes you wonder.  If everyone reacts differently then there is no way to narrow it down.  I do not believe for one minute though that power lines are 100% safe.  But that is my opinion. 

As far as Microwaves,  there still needs to be more research.  These links I noted are not consumers.  They are medical research companies trying to get answers.  You can read a lot of stuff..but that constantly changes with more research.  Know what I mean?   I agree with you on that.  I still believe that many of our convenience items are not as safe as we may believe though.  Like all medications, they have side effects.

Maybe someone will hop in and explain more.  I'm not saying it is fact one way or the other, mostly my opinion and referring to research.  Check out the power line link in the post.  It's another post written by Tim Maitski.

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
Stephanie,  I was just too tired to notice your star. congratulations
Posted by Gary Smith (Agent Marketing Today) over 4 years ago

Stephanie - It is obvious from the comments you have received that this is a very controversial subject and that many people besides yourself have opinions and take actions to prevent damage to their health and wellness. So much of this cannot be proved or disproved.

I find it interesting that my Grandma never had a mammogram and yet lived to the ripe age of 99 years and 7 months -- yet our doctors recommend one each year and breast cancer is increasing. Could it be possible that the rise in mammograms has led to a rise in breast cancer? I don't know.

My Grandma was born in 1899 and at least half her life she lived without electricity and running toilets. Most of her food came from her own garden until about the last 20 years of her life -- and then much of it came from her daughter's garden! I don't remember if she had a microwave but I do remember her heating her water for tea and coffee on the cook top!

I think as with pharmaceuticals many of the studies are funded by those who have a vested interest in what they are trying to prove or disprove. Third party testing is so important. In a lawsuit - both sides will hire EXPERT witnesses (paid) who usually agree with their side of the story.

This brings up a very important part of GREEN - THIRD Party testing is critical. Third Party testing gives an unbiased point of view - not based on opinion or skewed studies. Thank you for raising awareness of an important issue in our society! It will be fun to see elementary children using your blog as a reference in THIER experiments! Talk about full circle!

Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago
ps. I can't believe not a single person commented on my sparking carrots!
Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago

Mary,  LOL on the Carrots.  I was talking to a man who worked for a MAJOR grocery store chain one time and he swore up and down that the FDA has a Maximum Level of certain items in canned foods such as Metal and *GULP*  Bug parts.  YUCK!!!  Notice I said Maximum Level. 

I couldn't believe it.  They allow a minimal amount of that stuff in canned foods?  Holy Cow.  Ever since then I wished I had a Farmer's Market close to me.  OOohh.  I'm getting chills just thinking about it.  I hope he was kidding.  I really doubt it though.

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago

Stephanie - Cringe, cringe but OH it is true -- there is also a maximum level of chicken bones that can be put in hot dogs. I never buy hot dogs that have "parts and pieces" (read the label) in them after testing in a hot dog manufacturing plant -- but we won't go there. Very few hot dogs or smokey links in my diet since.

He wasn't kidding! Farmers markets are awesome! (just be sure to wash the vegies when you get home -- maybe even soak them in a gallon of water with a tablespoon of "CLOROX" bleach - the only "food grade" bleach product!)

Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago

You want to be grossed out ask about what they put into dog food! I did an experiment with one of my dogs after he got sick and the doctor did blood tests ( liver and kidney). I started cooking for him and a year later the doctor did another blood test - it was like night and day! A once dieing dog lived 4 more years and I believe it was because I changed his food.

My opinion - we forget how much 'environment' touches our lives.

Posted by Dena Stevens ~ Putting the 'real' into REALTOR (Century 21 Canon Land & Investment) over 4 years ago
Very interesting.  It is very difficult to know which studies were "good" and which had flaws.  I think I would err on the side of caution!  I like to cook and I think food tastes much better cooked in the stove/oven -- the microwave is okay for heating leftovers once and a while.  It does make me nervous.
Posted by Joan Whitebook Southern New Hampshire (BHG The Masiello Group) over 4 years ago

Ok, I'll come back and comment to everyone..and this is all so off topic but interesting..  :)  Have you all watched 'Supersize Me'?  It's a show about a man that ate McD's breakfast, lunch and dinner for 30 days.  They made him stop after 20 or so because he was at such a high risk of Stroke and overweight due to eating it.

They talked about how they make Chicken Nuggets.  I made my daughter watch it and she has not eaten a Chicken Nugget since then.  They give the term 'whole chicken' a whole new meaning.  Hint...Hint.. Yuck.

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
DENA - when we got our new puppy I started reading about this. Funny - so many tell you not to give dogs table scraps but when I started reading about the "home cooking" for the doggie I had to concur. My aunt and uncle had a dog live to the ripe age of 26 - I believe it was a Chow -- quite possibly one of the oldest to live. They always had a pot on the stove for the dog! Good for you for taking such good care of your animals!
Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago
Joan - I am with you regarding what would be "flaws" or even skewed results based on anticipated outcome. In my labs we always had to be careful of the "expected" outcome and explain at the end of an experiment what factors attributed to the results (expected or unexpected) results we received. There are far too many companies out there who pay the big bucks to publicize the results they want known and bury those that they don't!
Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago

Mary,  Thanks for the tip...I might drive across town  (45 miles) to go to the Farmer's Market this month. 

Hi Dena,  I'll check out what they put in dog food...but that is not the first time that I have heard that.  I have heard that dogs live longer if we cook them food...or even feed them raw beef.  Do I really want to research that?  :)  Sounds gross.

Hi Joan,  I'm with you.  Mary brought up a great point about 3rd party reports.  That would be nice to see.  Be careful heating leftovers in the microwave...when I was reading, they say that because the microwave heats unevenly the food harbors bacteria in the areas that are not as warm.  High risk of food poisoning..especially in Pork.

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago

SUPERSIZE ME! I have not seen the documentary but have watched some interviews and have seen some clips and AGREE!

My son (the same one who almost ate the sparking carrots) had some serious problems with grades in sixth grade. ONE of the things we changed: he was eating french fries for lunch everyday because they were "the cheapest" and he could keep his change. He loves money! Solution: keep your lunch money and carry your "HEALTHY" lunch to school. Grades increased tremendously. Yes, other changes were made, but I believe the DIET changes were HUGE!!! (to this day he makes his lunch to carry to work and rarely buys out of machines!) 

Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago
Stephanie - good information about bacteria harboring in the cold spots! I never would have thought of that!
Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago

I can't get everythng done now!  Take away my fast helpers and I wouldn't have time to blog any more...

I grew up very much off grid, except for electricity, and it was a wonderful childhood, but our teeth are all bad because rainwater has no fluoride.  We had little in the way of pesticides and most of our food was grown by us or nearby.  We raised our own eggs and got milk from the neighbor.  My mother still died of cancer though...perhaps the high fat diet? 

We do consume too much in the way of pesticides and hormones though;  it can't possibly be good for us.

Posted by Summit County, Colorado Realtor l Joanne Hanson (Coldwell Banker Colorado Rockies Real Estate) over 4 years ago
We have a microwave...doesn't get much love except for occasional popcorn,to heat water and melt butter.  My husband doesn't like the taste so we've never really used it!  This makes me really  happy we don't live off nuked food!  THANKS for the education this AM!  WOW!
Posted by Real Estate Specialist | Brandon, FL | Susie Roscoe (Signature Realty Associates) over 4 years ago

Stephanie - Our local newspaper picked up an article from the AP yesterday regarding Wayne Watson who developed lung cancer from the fumes inhaled when opening his microwave popcorn (link to yahoo article.) A two pack a day popcorn fan his doctors attribute the cancer to the chemical diacetyl used in the artificial butter flavoring. ConAgra Foods is the biggest maker and does not use the same chemical in their stovetop "Jiffy" pop. They use natural butter in that product.

I found the article very interesting especially because so many have responded here that popcorn is one of the things they use their microwaves for most.

READ YOUR LABELS!

Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago

Stephanie- I am sorry I am late to this one. I am still giving it a high 5 , very deserving, right up my alley! I teach on this subject a lot as a volunteer for better health. Since I started using Arbonne products a whole world opened up to me that I had not know about with toxins in our skin care, our food, our environment. 

We got rid of our microwave over a year ago and we do not miss it one bit. It is just as fast to boil water on a stove. I have never used microwave popcorn. We bought a great air popper from Target and love it. We use organic popcorn and sprinkle it with sea salt. Tastes so much better. The microwave popcorn and the movie theater popcorn cause lung diseases and deaths. 

The food companies are making so much $$$ off of us, they want you to be fat, so you eat bad, they love it! They fight against food labeling, they fight against so many things that are healthy and when they lose like with the whole grain disclosure, they lie that the cereal is made from whole grain and they get away with it because of some loophole.

And Big Pharma wants to keep it this way. We eat bad food, we microwave, we use bad skin products, we trust that no one is trying to make us sick, and Big Pharma then creates drugs to treat the symptons of all the diseases they are causing and then those drugs they get you on cause other diseases that they created more drugs for. It is a cycle of greed and disgusting inhuman corporations who are now trying to make it so you can not go buy natural supplements, only the ones they make from their cancer causing scientific inventions.

Oh, I could go on for hours with all I have found out about. Funny thing, my mother knew all of this in the 60' s, everyone thought she was a wacko for what she said. She told us margerine was plastic, that white bread is bad for you, sodas are bad for you and that preservatives cause cancer! How right she was!

Great post, we will need to talk again. Read these books, Fast Food Nation and The China Study by Dr. Campbell. I may be spelling his name wrong. It will change your life and the health of your children.Katerina

Posted by Nestor & Katerina Gasset Realtors® Wellington Florida Homes For Sale (International Properties and Investments, Inc.) over 4 years ago

Hi All--

Great posts.  I have been vegan for more than 20 years but still used a microwave to reheat (I don't think as much bacteria risk in veggies and tofu--but I'm sure there's some).  My pathmate has taken a number of bodywork classes over the past year  and one of his teachers said that the microwave action killed the nutrients in food.  He also uses a baud meter to determine EMF's around electrical appliances.  To reach the "allowable" level, we have to stand 8' away from my microwave--it's only a couple of years old and was a higher end unit when purchased for the green home I was building.  Just goes to show that "you don't know what you don't know!" And it can be bad for your health!

Isn't it amazing how those "wackos" from the 60's knew what they were talking about?  And how the rest of the world didn't want to listen as it would dramatically change their lifestyles?  I love going to the green events around California and seeing those of us who have been at this for 20-30 years and still going strong.  I also love seeing all the fresh new faces showing up with a passion that rivals that of the 60's!!!

Posted by Tamara Perlman (Referral Network Inc.) over 4 years ago

Hi Joanne,  That's very interesting.  You know, it is hard to really track this stuff...health goes back to genetics too.  It's a never ending cycle.  I would like to hear more about the rainwater.  Sorry to hear about your mom.

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago

Hi Susie,  sounds like you don't use your microwave much.  good!  :) 

 

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
Mary,  Thanks for the info..I'll check out the links.
Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
Hi Katerina,  I could go on for hours too.  :)  That is great information.  I'm going to go and get an Air Popper too.  I'm shopping around for a new range/hood.  Trying to find an Energy Star Electric one..no luck yet.
Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
Hi Tamera,  That is interesting!  8' away from the microwave?  I have also considered going vegetarian.  I think I need to read up on it first.  When I cook, I get grossed out sometimes knowing what I'm cooking.  :(~ yuck.
Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago

Hi Stephanie--

It's good to have some background on being vegetarian or vegan.  I had tried it several times and didn't understand about getting enough protein or food combining--very important!!!  You can get really run down and vulnerable in just a few weeks or less.  Try it with someone who's done it--successfully or with guidance from a book or two that sound true to you.  There are some food/diet styles that don't work for everybody!  Yes, knowing what you are cooking can be very yucky.  Watching movies like SuperSize Me can make it even yuckier!!!  Good luck if you decide to try vegetarianism!

Posted by Tamara Perlman (Referral Network Inc.) over 4 years ago
Tamara,  That's exactly why I wanted to read up on it and probably the main reason why I have not dont it yet.  Kind of scary to think about not getting enough protein.  Thanks again!
Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
Stephanie- I bought my air popper for $16 at Target. My first one that I bought cost $15 and that was in 1995 and it lasted until last year. Then it died. What a great life for $15! And it amazes me how the price really did not go up. They lost popularity in the advent of microwave poisoned popcorn! Katerina
Posted by Nestor & Katerina Gasset Realtors® Wellington Florida Homes For Sale (International Properties and Investments, Inc.) over 4 years ago
Tamara and Stephanie- I am a vegetarian and so are most of my kids, too. There is a great book called The CHINA STUDY, best book I have read by one of the top heart surgeons in the world, Dr Campbell. The U.S. government funded many studies on why only the very rich people in China get cancer and heart disease, etc. All these studies were amazing. It is Casein that acts like a fertilizer to our cancer cells. It is like feeding your lawn. We all have dormant cancer cells, the chose is do we fertilize them and encourage them to grow or not. IT is Diet related, the most. And Casein is a protein found in all dairy products. That is why vegetarians in the U.S. are still getting cancer while those in China do not. U.S vegetarians are some of the biggest consumers of Casein, they eat milk, cheese and dairy products. Even Morningstars soy cheese- they add casein to it! I called them about it and complained. My son is Casein free and we are trying to be. I have been off cows milk for over 15 years and off of all cheese and butters, etc for one year now, since I read the book. The conspiracy of milk being good for you is one of the biggest scams and this doctor had first hand info on all of this. He was on the panel to make the new food pyramid ( which is a marketing scam, by the way), and the head of the dairy association was also on the panel. He showed them the evidence of how bad dairy is and yet the dairy association became the sponsor of the food pyramid and in return got their own little section on the pyramid! You need to read the book! IT is fact after fact! The U.S government did not want us to know all the info on the china study because it would devastate the dairy and beef industries in our country! Katerina
Posted by Nestor & Katerina Gasset Realtors® Wellington Florida Homes For Sale (International Properties and Investments, Inc.) over 4 years ago
Thanks Katerina for the heads up on the book.  I hadn't seen that one.  I've been mostly vegan for over 20 years now (for those who don't know--no animal products of any type, fish, chicken, dairy).  Have used some soy cheeses in the past with casein--usually avoided them on general principal and not because I had heard about the health issues.  People would always give me a hard time about the dairy aspect and I would tell them "I'm not a baby cow!"  They would tell me I wasn't a baby soybean either....  We all make our own choices and I'm happy with mine!
Posted by Tamara Perlman (Referral Network Inc.) over 4 years ago
Ladies - For the most part I am with you on the dairy although I must confess my love of cheese.
Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago

Hi Mary--

Cheese seems to be the hardest one for people to give up.  I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "anything but my cheese!"

Posted by Tamara Perlman (Referral Network Inc.) over 4 years ago
Tamara- I salute you for making healthy choices. Only cows are to drink cow's milk, the rest is all lies. Our bodies can not even absorb the calcium that is in milk. Besides, they pasteurize it which kills all the healthy stuff it could have had in it. So what's the point to drink it? I drink Rice Milk. Soy is not that healthy either. Rice is good for everyone. Get the book, it is so good. You will not be able to put it down. Katerina
Posted by Nestor & Katerina Gasset Realtors® Wellington Florida Homes For Sale (International Properties and Investments, Inc.) over 4 years ago

Thanks Katerina--

Yes, I have reduced my soy consumption.  I do still drink soy lattes and have tofu, but have really cut back on the soy cheeses and other products.  I'm drinking rice milk and using rice cheese and rice noodles mostly.  I hope they don't come out with warnings about rice!  I'll check into the book later today!

Posted by Tamara Perlman (Referral Network Inc.) over 4 years ago
My fear of soy is the high level of estrogen in it.  I have to be careful how much beef I eat and I can not take any kind of hormone anything since I am so sensitive to it.  I downloaded a sheet that shows how much estrogen is in different food products and I try to keep them to a minimum.
Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
Tamara and Stephanie- I use a homeopathic doctor. He was telling me that Brown Rice is the one food no one is allergic to and it is very good for your liver. It is a very versatile food. Watch the labels on Rice cheeses, some add Casein. But if you call Morning star or go online and complain they will send you coupons to their products that do contain Casein. Katerina
Posted by Nestor & Katerina Gasset Realtors® Wellington Florida Homes For Sale (International Properties and Investments, Inc.) over 4 years ago

Stephanie and Katerina--

I understand about the soy/estrogen issues.  We were raising my daughter vegan and she showed signs of precocious puberty around 8 years old.  The doctor recommended reducing her soy intake.  Of course, there are studies on how American girls are reaching puberty across the board.  Her classes were a clear indication--about 1/2 of the girls were developing as quickly as she was.  We did change her diet and let her incorporate a more American diet.  She didn't like beef, thank goodness, but would eat chicken and dairy.  She went through a couple of years of having more weight than she wanted.  She decided to return to vegan now that she is 14, is careful of the soy intake and has lost about 15 lbs total.  She is so thrilled.  Her energy levels are good and she's a good student, so I don't think she's lacking in nutrition.

Yes, I've seen casein in some of the rice cheeses too.  Have really cut down on any of the processed foods, even the ones that "should be" good for you--with rice, soy, etc.

Posted by Tamara Perlman (Referral Network Inc.) over 4 years ago

Tamara, when my daughter was an infant she could not have the normal formula or breast feed.  None of it set with her so her first..well, over a year was soy mixed with food as she got older.  When she was 6 she came home from school one day and had this emotional breakdown and started crying because she didn't know what to eat for a snack.  She is not one to cry, at all.

I thought to myself  "If I didn't know better she is having a hormonal issue right now."  It was then that I started researching soy and the effects it has on people.  We do not have a real high fat diet usually so I assume that it had something to do with the soy.  There are studies that show boys and girls that were on soy formula go in to puberty at a younger age.  I felt so bad when I found that out.  My son had a hard time with formula also but I just did one that had broken down proteins.  He still had a little trouble with it occasionally, but it was fine.  It will be intereting to see how that works out.

I think with kids it is mainly the hormones in the food, high fat diets, and refined suger intake.  Also,  children of single parents or stressful environments go in to puberty quicker.  Stress related.  The body..it's an amazing thing.

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
Stephanie, Tamara- The soy product that is good for you is tofu. But that is the only one. The Asian countries contrary to popular belief only eat tofu and soy sauce from the soy plant. And they have the lowest rates of cancers in the world. Katerina
Posted by Nestor & Katerina Gasset Realtors® Wellington Florida Homes For Sale (International Properties and Investments, Inc.) over 4 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMUYYdjmA0

Check this out- MSG warnings. Guess what! They put MSG in baby formulas, all of them! Except in organic ones. Thank GOD I nursed all my kids! Katerina 

Posted by Nestor & Katerina Gasset Realtors® Wellington Florida Homes For Sale (International Properties and Investments, Inc.) over 4 years ago
Mary,  LOL.  Someone just read this blog because they Googles 'sparking carrots' .  :)  I just checked my statcounter
Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago
That is SO funny! I am curious why they are looking for 'sparkling carrots' ! What a riot!
Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago
I don't know.  LMAO when I read it though.  I'm guessing they had sparking carrots in their microwave too?  I have no idea.  I just had to tell you.
Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago

I love that! You never can tell what people are going to google!

Posted by Mary Bigelow, 2010 Let's Do It AGAIN!!!! (Contractors Building Supply) over 4 years ago
Stephanie-  I just read your comment about us hijacking this post! Oh, well, it was fun too! That is so funny about the google juice you got with teh sparking carrots. Katerina
Posted by Nestor & Katerina Gasset Realtors® Wellington Florida Homes For Sale (International Properties and Investments, Inc.) over 4 years ago

Katerina,  It's ok.  It was interesting to see where the conversation led.  I think it's a little funny.

Did you read the article on Electrical Sensitivity?  The link is in the post.

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago

So many opinions, and so much good information, all so lovingly shared....I don't know where to start!  Don't get me started on the food thing because I'll ramble on all day, so let me go back to the grid...

GREAT IDEA, and I think if no one picks up this ball to run with it, YOU SHOULD! 

Hard to know if we're dying from the popped corn because it was microwaved, or because it was bathed in preservatives, or because the packaging was overtreated with pesticides.  Or maybe he also ate a pound of bacon a day, or .....you get the point.

We should each pare our lives down to the simplest level, in the most dimensions possible.  Every day I know I could do more, but rather than worrying what I'm not able to do, I just do what I can.

Cheers! from DC...

   Jaynee

Posted by Jaynee Acevedo, Capital Style Home Staging (Capital Style Home Staging) over 4 years ago

Jaynee--

I think that's a great attitude.  Do as much as you can, but don't "beat yourself up" about all the other things you could be doing.  More will happen in time as some of the "new" things you are doing today will become habit, making it easier to incorporate "new" simplicities in the near future!  And being aware of where you could be doing a better job will lead to actually incorporating them into your daily routine.

Posted by Tamara Perlman (Referral Network Inc.) over 4 years ago

Stephanie:

So I am really coming in late on the discussion, but browsing the above posts was very interesting. As many have said I could go on for days on a number of issues that have been mentioned. Here is my 2 cents on a some of them:

Microwaves - Probably one of the biggest sources of electro magnetic radiation most folks are exposed to. If you chose to use one, never stand in front of it. I have used a Gauss meter on these as well an depending on the model and wattage you can still be exposed up to 15 feet away. A nutritionist friend told me the best use of a microwave was to use it to dry a dish-washing sponge, because it would kill all bacteria.

Power Lines- I think the studies on power lines came back inconclusive in part because the researchers did not take areas of geopathic stressinto consideration when looking at different homes close to power lines. These are areas where there is already alot of detrimental energy to a human being that is being generated. Add EMR from power lines and you could see very unhealthy effects. Like you said, Europe is ahead of us on this issue. In Germany, you can not get a building permit until the lot has been check for geopathic lines of energy.  

As far as the health industry is concerned, see Sicko. You will see why the US life expectancy ranks right above some African countries.

Great thought provoking post!

Posted by Bill Westel, ECO (Eco-Steward Realty) over 4 years ago
Stephanie, did you watch Living With Ed the other night?  He went to Larry Hagman's house.  Larry has a solar panel grid the size of a football field, which generates enough electricity for his 27,000 sq.ft. house plus 5 low income homes in the area.  The utility company actually pays him for the electricity generated by his panels!  Now, thats living off the grid!
Posted by Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495 (Stage it Right!) over 4 years ago
Hi Bill,  That is all very interesting...some of it is over my head so you just gave me some more research.  :)  Who is Sicko?
Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago

Terry,  I did not see it but...That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.  That I think is what we need more of.

Dang, I wish I had seen that show.

Posted by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® Spring/Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®) over 4 years ago

Stephanie:

I will do a post on geopathic stress in a couple of days. It is an interesting topic and one that I have been involved in for several years.

Sicko is a movie by Roger Morre that examines the health care industry in America and compares and contrasts it to those of other countries. It is Moore's least partisan movie to date IMHO. If you cant see it in theaters, be sure to check it out on DVD,

Posted by Bill Westel, ECO (Eco-Steward Realty) over 4 years ago

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